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Pacific Drums & Percussion's PDAX9210 is a closed fixed hi-hat rod that allows you to mount a secondary / auxilliary hi-hat to your drum kit. I've been trying to get the Hi Hat to open on my Sibelius at school but I can't figure it out. We are using Sibelius 4. I've opened Bebob the peace that comes with Sibelius and in there there is a part when they hi hat opens and closes but when i copy this over to my peace it doesn't play it opened:S I've also tried going into Symbols and selecting the 0 sign but it doesn't open it.
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I recently switched from a simmons sd7pk to a roland td17. Using the simmons kit I was always sad I could not get it to send yellow cybal closed and blue cymbal open (unless I am mistaken, it doesnt let you set separate midi notes). The td17 lets me set separate midi notes for open and closed (as well as edge vs bow) but. Rockband always responds with the open hat note.I found a guide to getting this working on a td9, but the option that seemed critical there (hi hat compatibilty: external) I cannot find. Any ideas on other things I can try or other possible names for that setting?Amusingly, I can set edge open to Y and bow open to B, but that really doesnt give me what I want. I will continue my hunt for more information, hopefully someone here will be able to help or have a hint. I am connected through the midi pro adapter.hh open(bow) 51(d#3)hh open(edge) 59(b 3)hh close(bow) 42(f#2)hh close(edge) 22(a#0)hh pedal 89(f 6)I matched the picture as best I could (given that it is a different brain and things have been changed a bit).Sadly, this did not work.
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I also tried with the hh pedal off. The values are changing, if i change the open values to match another drum/cymbal rockband 3 faithfully does as expected.I think the brain is assuming the device on the other end knows what to do with the hh pedal state information and doesnt handle it internally. There must be an option to change this, otherwise why let the user set notes separately? I am almost tempted to attach to a computer and see if it can show me what is actually being sent.Thank you for the info, though. At least now I know it works for td9 and td11. Although I wonder if there is any difference here between rb3 and rb4.
Hey another TD-17 drummer! Good choice!It should be possible, but in my experience most open hi hat notes in Pro Drum charts wind up staying mapped to the yellow cymbal anyway. There are plenty of cases where a song has verses that ride a closed hi hat and choruses that ride an open hi hat without changing from yellow to blue. Most of the time, the chart will only switch it up when you have an open hi hat note as an accent in a part that otherwise relies on a closed hat.If you want to split the difference between feeling like you're really playing the drum part and maintaining a decent combo, you may be better off mapping every possible hi hat state (open/closed/edge/bow) to the yellow cymbal and just let the game believe that you're missing those occasional blue accents. To me, that feels better than playing something like In Bloom with a closed hat all the way through. I hadnt noticed the closed in verse open in chorus thing.
For the moment, my interest is in getting the practice with the quick accents. During a brief period when I was taking lessons (on an acoustic kit) it was very evident to me that everything to do with the hi hat other than 'hit this' was a weak point (seriously, you could tell how nervous or stressed I was by how dead the hat sounded since I had the habit of really stomping on the pedal when I wasnt thinking about it).
Anything that gets me better at the fast transitions will be good.I did try changing the calibration point, mostly a matter of physically adjusting the cymbal position on the hat stand, but I still feel like I am feeding my bad habits from the lessons. If you find a way to adjust the open/close set point electronically please let me know. I can look at mapping all yellow once I start to get some better (any) foot control.
Stephen Hazel is correct- and the sound is different.The Closed Hi-hat sound is a short sharp metallic sound (as I'm sure you know) but the foot hi-hat is a bit quiter and has a slightly less metallic sound, a bit more gentle.As the hi-hat closes, one part of the hi-hat rim will normally meet the other first (as opposed to the whole rim meeting at once ) so there's a slight build-up in the sound, then it stops suddenly as the hi-hat shuts on itself. It gives it a softer feel.This all happens very quickly of course, so it lasts about the same time as a closed hi-hat. As my guitar player calls it a chick and a hssp.Closed hihat sound depends on how much you close it with your feet but if you fully close it you will get a distinct sharp stroke. It is comparable to a ride cymbal sound structurally. Then slowly releasing your feet from the clutch and the sustain slowly increases from very clean and sharply decaying sound to more sizzling sound.Hihat footplay (ehm, no pun intended) is more of a orchestral cymbal playing.
You can see those dudes are holding the hihat completely in the wrong way. Look;p (click the image for the source)So in this analogy you can just crash both and keep your hands tight. That would be the typical jazz offbeat sound.
Also you can crash and pull your hands apart as fast as possible. The most often usage for this is when a drummer is playing a roll and increasing the tension by counting the beats with increasing volume of stomps, one of my favorites.